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April 01, 2016

Did Prince Charles and Camilla Have a Child?

Simon Dorante-Day is an Australian born in England, who claims to be the first born son of Prince Charles. It is claimed his birth mother is Camilla Shand, later the Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Charles's second wife. You would likely know her as Camilla Parker Bowles (she was first married to Andrew Parker Bowles).

See an interview with Dorante-Day in the embedded link below, this is the latest interview as of 29th April 2021:



(the link from Australia's Seven Network Sunrise show has been removed as they no longer run the story, if anyone has a good link to a video about this story I'd appreciate a heads-up. 

Update: this is back in the news in 2021 and I have this link which also carries video https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/royal-family/royal-mystery-simon-dorante-day-claims-he-is-the-secret-love-child-of-prince-charles-and-camilla-ng-b881857373z

The story goes that Camilla, who is a little older than Charles, got pregnant and gave birth to a son in April 1966. She would have been 18. The boy, it is claimed, was adopted out at about the age of 18 months. He was placed with a family that had connections with royals, as servants.

If this story is true it raises several questions:

1. Were Charles and Camilla married in secret before the child was born?

If they were married then Simon Dorante-Day is the legitimate heir to the throne of England, head of the Church of England - yes all that. Charles would have been a bigamist or divorced when he married Diana and his two sons would be disqualified (sorry William and Harry).

Here's the thing, Simon Dorante-Day appears to now have aboriginal connections, he has nine children, are any of them aboriginal Australians? It appears unclear, but his children may be in line to the throne. Can you see Britain putting a black Australian on the throne? Yeah right!!!

[Edit to add; if Dorante-Day was born illegitimate, does Charles's later marriage to Camilla legitimise this child by her and thus set up a whole new line of succession? That is, if the claim is true. 

And if it doesn't automatically set up a new line of succession immediately, does this newly discovered descendant line take precedence when Charles becomes King. That is, the King being above the law and all that. Do you see? In this case his descendants by way of Camilla are a shadow on the wall until he ascends the throne, whereupon the shadow becomes a physical presence in the room. You could end up in a situation where the King and Queen have a son who cannot be heir, but another son, who may not even be biologically his, ascending to the throne when he dies. Think about it, which is better, the first born son to his legally married parents, or another, in this case William.]

2. Was Princess Diana killed because of what she knew? Was she going to blow the lid on everything? It is rumoured Charles had other children as well, but of course they'd be illegitimate so not in line.

And what of Diana, are her children biologically Prince Charles's?  Hmm? We could find here that Simon Dorante-Day is the eldest biological child of Prince Charles, legitimate or otherwise and that none of Diana's are his.

[Edit to add; thinking about this some more, what if Diana didn't want her children to be in line to the throne. She wanted to marry Dodi Al-Fayed, a bit of a problem that, given he was the son of a dubious businessman and a Muslim. So how about she planned to first get rid of her children as heirs before marrying Dodi. Perhaps she was going to reveal that Charles married Camilla in the eyes of God, a church or chapel ceremony not backed up by marriage certificate, and that in the eyes of God, another man was the rightful heir. Get the idea? Prince Philip has always been accused of arranging the hit, and he did that because of the threat she posed to his bloodline. What do you think?] 

3. Can this Australian demand a DNA? You betcha, Charles isn't King yet, he's still within the reach of the law. And does anyone believe such a test would be done honestly if he was the son of Charles? I mean, really? Do you believe that?

The only way such a thing could happen is if Her Majesty was sufficiently sick of the inbred fools and demanded the proof be provided, to refresh their gene pool. Otherwise it ain't gonna happen.

[Edit to add Feb 2 2019: I noticed that this blog post has taken off again in term of readership, and checking this I find Mr Dorante-Day is back in the news: https://www.newidea.com.au/camillas-secret-son-bombshell-picture-proof The picture just published does bear a resemblance to both Camilla and her son by Andrew Parker Bowles.]

[Edit to add Sept 20 2022: here's the latest from Australia on the claims made by Simon Dorante-Day, taking into account the death of the Queen, and King Charles ascending to the throne. https://youtu.be/cVWjqmyCPJw ]

19 comments:

  1. All I can say is this the royal family business so leave them alone to deal with any family affairs in private .they are royalty but still are human beings like us

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  3. Thank you for your input. They're public figures and one of them is in line to be head of state to a number of Commonwealth countries, so I disagree, who stands in line to the throne, and issues around that are very relevant. The story is in the mainstream media and is not rumour or intrigue. Whether the claim is valid or not however, is yet to be determined.

    This blog post, for those interested in such things, is by far my most read (by a factor well in excess of 10). At times it goes ballistic, the most recent from Russia, though the UK and USA are a staple. I've got to thank Mr Dorante-Day for bringing so much traffic to my blog.

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  4. Queen will demand Camilla divorce and leave hapless Prince Charles if Simone Day is her son. Did Diana meet some of Simone kids while in Australia? Think Simone better watch his back if story is true. My guess is he is Camilla's son and not Charles sure looks like Mark Shand. King William/Queen Catherine will be best if secret son is true

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    1. There is a strong resemblance between Mr Dorante-day and Camilla.

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  5. Let king Juan Carlos decide if William duke of Cambridge have a DNA test. And James Hewitt decide if Prince Harry should have A DNA test is just as controversial as this Australian man

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    1. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. I wasn't aware either Juan Carlos or Maj. Hewitt were claiming paternity in either case.

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  6. Charles has blue eyes, Camilla has blue eyes, Simon Dorante-Day has brown eyes, ergo genetically impossible for him to be the child of Charles and Camilla.

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    1. You're wrong. From the interwebs: "You need a working HERC2 and a working OCA2 to have brown eyes. Because the two genes depend on each other, it is possible for someone to actually be a carrier of a dominant trait like brown eyes. And if two blue eyed parents are carriers, then they can have a brown eyed child. Genetics is so much fun!" Anyway Dorante-Day claims his eye colour was changed when he was a child. Presumably that was to mask his identity and to create the very doubt that you're relying on (which is actually scientifically wrong, sorry about that).

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  7. How is this possible when they didn't formally meet until 1970 at a Polo match. Load of rubbish. Looks nothing like them

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    1. Really? Do you believe everything you read?

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    2. Oh and he looks just like Camilla, so much so, if you put him in a dress and a wig he could pass for her. So I don't know what pictures you've been looking at. He's so much like her, I struggle to think of any two other people who look more alike apart from twins.

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  8. This is rather silly.I doubt Charles would be so careless as to have an illegitimate child.Not saying it couldnt happen but highly unlikely.

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    1. What, like that never happens in royal circles?

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  9. If Camilla were Simon's mother who could his father be? Andrew Parker Bowles would be more likely, I think.

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    1. There is a strong resemblance between this Dorante-Day chap and Camilla. Who the father is, well, that is an open question.

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  10. "if Dorante-Day was born illegitimate, does Charles's later marriage to Camilla legitimise this child by her and thus set up a whole new line of succession?"
    No. The laws that allow for a subsequent marriage to legitimize children born out of wedlock specifically state that they do not apply to titles or the succession to the crown.

    "Perhaps she was going to reveal that Charles married Camilla in the eyes of God, a church or chapel ceremony not backed up by marriage certificate, and that in the eyes of God, another man was the rightful heir."

    The laws governing the succession to the crown really don't care about the "eyes of God". And in 1965, if Charles had married Camilla in secret, it would have been an invalid marriage under the terms of the Royal Marriages Act, and any offspring of it would have automatically been illegitimate. If Charles and Camilla had had a child in 1965 that child would be illegitimate whether they married or not under UK law.

    We'll leave aside the fact that Kevin Burke was quite clear that he was sleeping with Camilla throughout the balance of 1965 after her debut. And that there are reliable records of the Royal Family being at Balmoral during July of 1965, when the conception of any child born in early April 1966 would have occurred.

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    1. Generally I'd agree with what you're saying. But the situation whereby Charles later married Camilla is far less common. If they did have an earlier child, I'd say that child is disqualified as the union wasn't signed off on by QEII. But don't forget Charles will be King one day, and then what? That's my shadow on the wall scenario. But heh, if the story is true, does anyone believe for one minute that the U.K. would accept Aboriginal Australians to the new line of succession?

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  11. I do hope that the Australian High Court would grant Simon that DNA test and that it will be overseen by authorities so that no fraud can occur. Otherwise Simon should ask Harry to take a DNA test - the state he is in nowm he may very well do so. At least that could prove whether they share the same father... but oops, we are not sure whether Prince Charles is actually Harry's father...otherwise Mr Day could do familial DNA, at least that will show whether he shares common ancestors with Charles and Camilla or both.

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